When I was in school, if you didn’t perform well on your tests and your daily school work…you received a failing grade. Apparently that is not the case in the business world when it comes to the Better Business Bureau. Who is handing out the grades at the Better Business Bureau?
First a little background…I cancelled my propane service with Holton’s LP Gas (now Amerigas) on Monday, September 17th, 2018. When I called them to request a pick up their empty tank, I was told I would be put on the list but it was not a “top priority” for them. Well after several phone calls, emails and messages through their website, I still have the empty propane tank sitting in my yard — almost 10 weeks later!
I thought I would check the Better Business Bureau’s webpage for Amerigas to see if perhaps it was just me that was having an issue. I found that Amerigas has 807 complaints in the last 3 years (as of today) and 317 complaints in the last year — that’s almost a complaint a day! Then I took a look at their customer rating…with 109 customer reviews they have a ONE star rating.
Then what really surprised me was the grade that was given to Amerigas by the Better Business Bureau…you’d expect with a track record like that they might have a “D” or maybe a generous “C” grade. Nope! Amerigas has an “A+” BBB rating! What?! How does that happen?
So I thought it might be interesting to review the complaints to see what other customers were having problems with. Much to my surprise (not really!) most of the complaints on the BBB website say “Complaint Details Unavailable”…so now a person can’t even see the issues people are having.
How the BBB comes up with their ratings. They will tell you on their website. They base their rating on the following: the business’ complaint history with BBB, the type of business, the time in business, their transparent business practices, the company’s failure to honor commitments to BBB, Licensing and government actions known to BBB, and advertising issues known to BBB.
Without access to determine the relationship that Amerigas may have with the BBB, I figured I would look further at the BBB’s “business complaint history with the BBB” as it pertains to their ratings system… According to the BBB website,
- The BBB rating takes into account the following information with respect to closed complaints that relate to a business’s marketplace activities:
- Number of complaints filed with BBB against the business.
- The size of the business.
- If complaints have been filed, whether in BBB’s opinion the business appropriately responded to them.
- If complaints have been filed, whether in BBB’s opinion the business resolved the complaints in a timely manner to the customer’s satisfaction.
- If complaints have been filed, whether in BBB’s opinion the business made a good faith effort to resolve complaints, even if the customer was not satisfied with the resolution.
- If complaints have been filed, whether in BBB’s opinion the business failed to resolve the underlying cause(s) of a pattern of complaints.
- The age of resolved complaints. Older resolved complaints have less of an impact on the rating than newer complaints.
Even though you can’t see what the complaints are about, most of them have been answered. Apparently as long as you respond to a complaint — regardless of the number of complaints or the low rating by actual customers — in the eyes of the BBB a company can still be an “A+” company! That is surprising to me.
So…my next step was to file a complaint on the BBB website with Amerigas. Here is the complaint I filed:
“I called the Cedar Springs, MI location to cancel my propane service with Amerigas on Monday, September 17th, 2018. I was told I would be put on the list, but it was not a top priority for them. After several phone calls, emails and messages sent through the Amerigas website…the empty propane tank is still sitting in my yard. It has been almost 10 weeks (2-1/2 months).
I had the tank placed in a location in my yard that was convenient for pickup during the fall months. It is not a convenient location for me, but I never figured it would take months for the tank to be picked up. With snow coming, this tank needs to be moved as it is in a location where snow will be plowed and the tank will be inaccessible.”
Stay tuned! I’ll keep you posted on the response that I get!
What was the outcome?
After contacting the BBB, Holton’s finally picked up their tank and cancelled the fees. Took a few attempts to get the fees cancelled thought.
How did your complaint show up on the BBB website? Or did it?
I read that the only way they make complaints unavailable is if the consumer requests it.
I had holtons way back in 2014 the price per gallon was higher than the rest I canceled the service back than in so many word pick up there tank it took then 6 months to pick up there tank I was working 60 hours a week back than to make ends meet. For a no. of years I had a company that was run Bye a husband and wife and they treated me fairly. I think they retired and sold to you guess it, holton’s lps gas. which is amecrigas I had the same problems as before and more they wanted tank rental fee I told them no to cancel my service they asked me how much propane was in it, there was 30% they told me at first it would have to be pumped out and the charge would be 156.00 dollars and a pick up fee of 54 dollars I ask them what about the 30% that you pumped out I mean I have no were to put it. They then said go ahead and use it till it gets under 10% so I did when it was ready I called them at the big rapids office and they still wanted to charge me a pickup fee I told then I wasn’t paying them to pick up there tank. I got a bill then I called them again told them the same thing The person I talked to said I will tell them, today I go a letter from a collection agency it’s only 54 dollars but how many other people are they doing this too.
Report them to the Better Business Bureau and things will be taken care of quickly. That seems to be the way to get them moving.